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| Topic Started: Oct 29 2011, 10:07 AM (295 Views) | |
| haylesd | Oct 29 2011, 10:07 AM Post #1 |
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we are having a few aggressive behaviours with gizzy at the mo, which i guess is just a parrotlet thing but he was hand reared so surely he shouldn't lash out at people including us and he has attacked our budgie too. is there anything i can do to calm him down? he's 18months now |
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| bakewell | Oct 29 2011, 03:03 PM Post #2 |
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Has there been any change in routine? additional family members? Even if its only slight change? |
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| haylesd | Oct 29 2011, 05:19 PM Post #3 |
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we did get a rescue budgie few months ago but he was aggressive before we got her too |
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| uccello62 | Oct 29 2011, 09:58 PM Post #4 |
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Hi, the reason he was hand reared does not mean anything. In fact, I find parent reared birds make better pets, sorry. I had two hand reared celestials, a hand reared yellow face, a hand reared spectacled which I bought at different times over the years and it was a disappointment each time; they have all ended up as breeding birds.. Male parrotlets are more temperamental then females; more territorial so a new budgie must have triggered something in him; hopefully it is just a phase; keep us posted, thanks past1 Stef |
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| LauraR | Oct 29 2011, 11:46 PM Post #5 |
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I agree with Stef regarding the aggression and hand rearing. I think a bird will be aggressive whether parent raised or hand reared. I do think that hand reared parrots in general can make great pets though. Most here in the US are hand reared. Is most of the aggression happening around his cage? |
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| scooby | Oct 30 2011, 07:40 AM Post #6 |
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I agree, i am not so sure that hand reared birds make better pets it makes some cuddlier but i don't think it makes them less agressive. all my parrotlets are aggressive little devils. i did have a load of trouble with scooby at first but he seems to have calmed down abit with age. i find my girls parrotlets are more aggressive than the males. Even now when mine are out the are trying to attack the other birds, i think it is part of been a parrotlet. |
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| Jan | Oct 30 2011, 01:33 PM Post #7 |
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My 2 girls are nasty most of the time... Sky is the worst... I cant handle her without gloves ... both were hand trained..Mint is a little better... My boy Scooby-doo is a nice bird Ive not yet seen any aggression in him to us or other birds... |
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| haylesd | Oct 31 2011, 09:03 AM Post #8 |
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he does seem more aggressive since we had sherbert, and with his cage it doesn't seem to matter,he could just be flying around the room and suddenly land on our shoulder and attack us! we also have some trouble getting bk in his cage sometimes, usually have to trick him with his favourite toy lol i guess it is just a parrotlet thing |
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| theexbrit | Nov 1 2011, 02:22 AM Post #9 |
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Mostly it seems to be a territorial thing with crabby parrotlets. eek All our guys were hand fed/reared & generally they're pretty good, but every now & then they get a bit crabby & bitey. It's mostly when they're molting (especially the first time as they don't know what's going on) or when they're around their cage. Try taking him into a completely separate room, just one of you & him (whoever bonds better with him). A bathroom is always good (with the toilet seat down!), take some millet & just spend some time with him one on one. Parrotlets aren't as domesticated as say Macaws Or conures so they still have a lot of their naturals instincts in them. Try to stop him landing on your shoulder as some experts say it gives them a sense of dominance if they're on your shoulder, plus he could do some real damage to your face. Also, birds use their beaks to climb around so sometimes he may not be biting, just clinging on a bit too hard! drats :lol: I agree with Stef that a "hand reared" bird doesn't guarantee that it won't bite (they all have different personalities just like humans), but I do think a hand reared baby will be a bit more "friendly" towards people as they've gotten used to being handled more than a parent reared baby. It doesn't mean to say they're going to "bite" less necessarily, but it stands to reason that a bird that has been around humans will generally be more accepting of them. Another factor is wing clipping, everyone has their for/against opinions but it definitely makes them more dependent on you & easier to train/handle. Spike (our hand fed baby that we kept) is clipped & while he's still "crabby" he is definitely hand tame. Our other 2 (Boo Boo & Pesto) are not clipped at the moment although they were clipped for maybe the first year or two of their lives. Again, it's purely a personal thing to clip or not, but there does seem to be an aversion to it in England. All our birds are clipped except Boo & Pesto & it doesn't bother them at all. Boo & Pesto are only flighted because Boo is really bonded to me & only ever flies straight to me whenever she's out of her cage. Pesto follows her wherever she goes so we have no worries about them flying into things or away. That said we always make sure the doors & windows are shut, fans are switched off & no boiling water or anything else that could harm them is around as there's always the chance something will spook them. Anyway, most bird owners will tell you that you will get a bite or two now & again, it's stopping it from getting out of hand that's the key. Here's a link to Sandee Molenda's blog, she's been raising parrotlets since about 1980 & is one of the foremost parrotlet experts here in the US. http://parrotletblog.blogspot.com/ There's some interesting stuff on her blog & several articles about biting, etc. Hope this helps. |
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| arren.sagar | Jan 18 2012, 08:46 PM Post #10 |
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Hi, so our little Poquette seems to be in the breeding mood right now. He often tries to mount one of his toys after doing the waggle dance to it, several times a day. He has also become more aggressive, flying towards my hands with the intention to bite. We discipline him by saying NO! and put him back in his cage for ten mins or so. He is very responsive to this usually but we need to do it more frequently these days. I was wondering if it would be beneficial to remove the toy that is currently the object of his affections or just ride it out until he calms down? In fact will he calm down? What exactly is the system for 'horny' male parrotlets? Cheers, Kellie |
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| Jan | Jan 19 2012, 01:43 PM Post #11 |
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Id take the toy out... One of my girls had a toy in the cage.... she fell in luv with it.. Not quite the same as your boy..but similar..I removed the toy...no more trouble I never put a toy back in...it was a soft fluffy thing... Good luck let us know how it all goes. |
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| Gardengail | Jan 19 2012, 06:04 PM Post #12 |
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I went through a few month period where I couldn't handle Cricket. He wouldn't let me pick him up and when I tried he would go into full attack mode. I did not back down and I got a lot of really bad bites out of it but I stood my ground. He now pretty much knows who's boss and has calmed down considerably. They are just like children. If they sense you are afraid they are going to take it and run with it. |
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| LauraR | Jan 20 2012, 12:06 AM Post #13 |
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I would definitely remove the toy! Let us know how it goes. He should calm down eventually. |
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| Tuula | Jan 20 2012, 10:23 PM Post #14 |
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[b nod2 ]I would remove the toy too! I had a similar problem with Bud. He got very possessive over a toy - a sort with little leather bits, bells and beads. He even used to simulate mating it. He started getting very aggressive when I went to put my hand in his cage and 'head butted' towards anyone walking past his cage. He also wanted to stay the whole time in his cage. If you took him out he would just fly straight back. I removed the toy, and also re-clipped his wings and made sure if he went for my hand as I put it in his cage I didnt retract it. It's quite hard to do as your instinct is to withdraw your hand but though it does hurt a little he has never drawn blood and after a few times he became less determined. I would put my hand in and when he had stopped going for it I would speak all soft and gooey to him and after a couple of seconds withdraw my hand. Sort of 'if you dont try to bite I will remove it - if you bite, my hands stays in your cage'. I also would pop my hand in, and when he 'stepped up' nicely would take him out, praise him and give him millet or his favourite - an almond. :) This all happened around the 18 month stage and he went through an unappealing stage, but I persevered and he got better and better. He seems to have really calmed down now and has a swing he loves but is not neurotic about it. Another thing which hugely changed him is I moved position of his cage, not for any reason just had a change around. It was moved to opposite side of the room where he could see outside. He used to have spells regularly where he would start with a high pitched repetetive squeak and go on for no reason. Drove 2 of my lads crazy!!! DIdn't bother me so much but it was annoying, especially if you already had a headache! :lol: This all stopped when we moved his cage. Unbelievable really as it was only 10 foot across the room. Maybe the feng shui was right!! :lol: :lol: Bud seems not to mind being clipped though he is pretty much fully flighted again now. In the summer he has a lot more freedom if he is clipped. He is a real sweetie at the moment. Hope it lasts![/b] nod2 |
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