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Regress; Zuben
Topic Started: Aug 14 2007, 02:28 PM (610 Views)
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Well, Zuben has regressed a lot. He won't take any foods but formula now. I am working with him but no signs of improvement at the moment. It is his 3rd day here so I am sure he is still settling in. I have been talking to the breeder a lot and Zuben has us both puzzled. He won't even touch his millet now.

I do not want to have to take him to the breeder because then poor Zuben would have to go on an hour and 15 min car drive and then have to settle back into the breeders house. That would be so confusing for him. Especially coming BACK to my house.

Do any of you have any suggestions??
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Nickie if your doing ok on the formula feeding just stick to it. I agree taking him back to the breeder may not be the best decision so long as your comfortable doing the formula. I think he's just a little confused and even frightened away from his siblings. I think in a week or so he will start to eat solids again like he's suppose to.
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Thanks Bonnie! The breeder (Jerry) is helping out loads. He is in contact w/ me pretty much all day. And I am SOOOO grateful for that. I want to do the best for Zuben!!! :unsure:
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Nickie..I don't know much on the subject other then it is quite common for a bird to regress especially since his surroundings are all new, you're new and like Bonnie said, he's probably missing his siblings and a little confused.

If you can and you feel comfortable with hand feeding, I wouldn't take him back to the breeder. The good thing is you are home all day. I would give little Zuben another week and see what happens!
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I agree with Bonnie, stick with feeding him at home. I'm sure it's just a settling in phase, he's still a baby after all. Taking him back to the breeder will confuse him even more. :wacko:

You said he was starting to bond with the breeder, that's probably most of the reason for the regression, he's upset that the breeder's not around any more. Look on this as an ideal opportunity to really bond with Zube. Once he gets used to you feeding him he'll bond with you & he'll be fine. Maybe just you handle him for a little while until he settles in so that he really knows that you're his "buddy" :wub:

Don't leave it too long before others start handling him though, keep it you & him for just a few days 'till he settles in, otherwise he might get antisocial & you could end up being the only one he'll let near him. Right now he's confused & maybe a little scared. Talk to him a lot in a gentle voice, birds love noise & get nervous if it's too quite (they think there's a predator around :o ). Also, your gentle words will make him trust you a lot sooner. :D

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Well Jerry (the breeder) suggested something.....On the way home Zuben tore up his millet in his travel cage....so he suggested for me to put Zuben back in his travel cage with his millet and seed on the bottom of the cage. And to put him in a quieter room....IT WORKED! He was nibbling on his millet. Then I put his perch in and he hopped on and is taking a nap....

The big thing that worries me is that I don't have a gram scale to weigh him.....I have no way of Knowing if he is losing or gaining weight.
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the thing is he was with his parents who were feeding him (the breeder) then he was taken to a new strange place and some one else started feeding him (you) with this nice warm food, that only a parent can give him. its comforting and nice tasting so why would he want to stop ? :)
how many times are you feeding him Nickie ? you might have to be a bit hard on him in a day or so, and he will eat his other food as he's done this when at the breeders. he's getting comforted by you feeding him. I had this with my first handreared parrotlet, wanting to be feed then all of a sudden he refused it and never went back to it :)

as Andy said make sure that everyone handles him, and knows how to get him to step up and down.

kev :)
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Great!!

Too many changes at once :wacko: I guess you need to put him in his big cage just for a while during the day & then put him back in his travel cage to eat, sleep, etc. Until he gets used to his new surroundings. :wub:

I'm sure he'll make quick progress. :wub: :wub:

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for a quick way to feel how much meat he has on him, hold him in your hand and feel down his breast bone there should be a layer of muscle either side of the breast (keel) bone.
millet is a great food to get him off his warm food, they use a lot of energy so burn it off quicker than other birds.

kev :)
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That was a good suggestion by your breeder and I really wouldn't worry too much Nikie so long as he's eating well...be it formula or food. I think by the end of the week he will be adjusted better to his new surroundings.
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His muscle feels good. We will have to see how he does with his eating. I don't want to wait too long, you know.

Gosh I am so nervous.
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All good advice! You and Zuben should be fine! Nickie...I forgot ..how old is Zuben ? 7 or 8 weeks?
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He was 7 weeks on Monday.

His siblings are all done with their formula. They have been refusing all day. So that is great news for them.
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7 weeks is still at that fine line... Like Kev said...just give him a couple days! A little "tough" love may be warranted at that time... ;)
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That is pretty young so I wouldn't worry too much about if he still wants the formula for awhile. I don't think Cricket was ready until 9 weeks. Zuben may need to have a couple of formula feedings a day for a couple more weeks. It's better to let him have the formula at this young age . For some reason I was thinking he was 8 weeks old already. He's still a baby and baby's like their formula. He was raised by the breeder and around his siblings so he felt more secure there. He may need a couple weeks before you try to wean him off again.
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