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| Topic Started: Aug 14 2007, 04:27 PM (378 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Aug 14 2007, 04:27 PM Post #1 |
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Well Daisy's foot is much better and no swelling and she is perching normally. When I first gave her to my mom she's was scared of blankets or anything that looked like being covered up (She would chirp very loudly and lunge at us). After coming back from my moms she wasn't even effected by the cover. Now after her injury she is worse than she was before. She flips out when I cover her or open her cage door to feed & water her. If we come anywhere near her she kinda fluffs up the feathers on her head and keeps her beak open. I think all trust is gone now and I'm not sure what to do. I think she thinks it's our fault she got hurt because we were holding her and she flew over there. I'm just not sure where to start. angrey2 I have a pair of gloves that my mom was using to get her out of the cage because she bites so hard. Should I try to take her out everyday and just hold her? Before she went to my moms I had tried leaving the cage door open in the evenings and she never ventures out. I've tried talking to her and everything that has been suggested. I'm afraid that if we just leave her alone and don't make her come out that things are just going to get worse. I need to gain her trust back. Please help! |
 
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| theexbrit | Aug 14 2007, 04:44 PM Post #2 |
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I think this one is for you, Kev. Good luck Jessie, I'm sure she will trust you again in no time at all. She's had a lot of changes & traumas lately, once things settle down she'll be fine again. :wub: nod nod2 |
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| Bonnie | Aug 14 2007, 04:53 PM Post #3 |
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Jessie right now Daisey is very confused because of the change back to you. Sadly you may have to start back at step one with regaining her trust. I've never been fond of using gloves to get a bird out, in my opinion they only scare them worse. Go back to leaving the door open and even if she doesn't venture out she will relax a little bit. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 14 2007, 04:59 PM Post #4 |
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I don't think she has ever trusted us or even liked us. That's why I let my mom take her. We never could get near her without being bitten very badly. Ever since we first bought her we haven't been able to handle her. I had made a little bit of progress with getting her to jump up on a towel and then taking her out but that may be where she has gotten this fear of towels, blankets, & being covered. |
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| Gardengail | Aug 14 2007, 05:01 PM Post #5 |
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Same here Jessie...I don't agree with gloves either. (I know it's difficult...no one wants their fingers ripped to shreds! lol)
:o I have been discovering more and more that my own Cricket gets in these "moods"! In fact just this morning I opened his door to give him a kiss and he did that "puff me up thing" and tried to make himself look biiiiiiiig all the while his beak wide open! The little booger bird! I can't help but laugh at him when he does that! lol! Ten minutes later he was practically purring in my hand! :nuts: |
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| Bonnie | Aug 14 2007, 05:28 PM Post #6 |
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You may be right about the towels Jessie, it doesn't take much to upset or scare a bird. From the sounds of everything Daisey is just afraid. Even though I know you will get bit you have to start getting her out of the cage for awhile each day. Make it only a 20 minute session of just you and her away from the cage in a small room such as the bathroom. I have cared for many birds over the yrs and found this method to work the best. I would do it 2 times a day EVERY day. I normally took along something that was their favorite thing to eat. At first they ignored the treat but after a week or so of going through the same routine 2 times a day they were less fearful and agressive and actually started to eat the treat. It's not going to happen overnite because i think Daisey is very frightened so it's going to be up to you to show her there is nothing to fear. As far as the blanket covering I would only just lay the balnket on top of the cage for a week then slowly every week start covering a little more and a little more. Good Luck |
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| Deleted User | Aug 14 2007, 05:38 PM Post #7 |
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Thanks for the advice everyone! I'm not sure how to handle her without something on my hands. She goes for blood when she bites. No warning peck, nibble, or anything. If you put your hand in you will loose a chunk of skin. I have no pain tolerence at all. My husband can tolerate it for the most part but he works nights so sleeps in the evenings and I take care of the birds when I get home from work. Any suggestions? |
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| Bonnie | Aug 14 2007, 06:03 PM Post #8 |
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Sadly your fear is being sensed by Daisey, and she is biting out of fear. Iv'e worked with many abused, neglected, mistreated birds over the yrs and found the best way is to work directly with that bird. Once they sense your not afraid they become less fearful but this is true with most all animals. I know of people who tried using a perch to get the birds to come out. They ended up with worse bites than I did because the bird would come down the perch and get them. Maybe one of the other members has a solution for you to help. I just don't know any other way than talking gently...giving treats and working one on one. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 14 2007, 06:04 PM Post #9 |
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I sure hope Daisy stops biting you guys. I don't have any advice. Zuben is doing that every once in a while. Not too hard though, just a nippy stage. I know it is bad to jerk your hand away. Because that will just encourage her more. Also tell her a firm "NO Biting" I hope this helps. |
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| Gardengail | Aug 14 2007, 06:12 PM Post #10 |
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I don't know what to tell you. I do know people that have used the step up method with a perch...don't know if that would work for a little P'lett or not! |
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| LauraR | Aug 14 2007, 06:19 PM Post #11 |
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Pesto has just started biting me when I feed him, just like Boo! (there's so much cage territoriality in these little guys). I'm trying something new and that's to put the back of my hand towards him where he can't really grab anything to bite. I did this yesterday and it surprised him and he backed off. I'll let you know how this works out, maybe you can try this yourself. |
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| BUUZBEE | Aug 14 2007, 06:22 PM Post #12 |
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I've always found the best way to win back trust is time. When i get a new bird that is terrified of me... i place the cage next to the dinner table. I will sit there whenever i can and talk softly to it. Be it reading the paper or just chatting with it. I find they seem to calm down and learn the tones of my voice. This can take a week or a month. I hope this helps :) |
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| Deleted User | Aug 14 2007, 06:28 PM Post #13 |
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I'll see what I can get accomplished tonight. I have tried using a perch Gail but she hops on and then hops right back off. It's a never ending cycle ... haha. Let me know how the back of the hand works Laura. Maybe I'll try that tonight. One thing that I have tried that has kinda worked in the past was to give her my finger nail. I don't wear any kind of polish or keep anything on my hands so when I put my hand in and when she actually stays still I'll put my hand up to her and put my fingernail on her beak. She can try to bite it but she can't. She realizes that and will not try to bite it unless I give her a different piece of my hand to bite. She doesn't step up at all so the only way to get her out is to cup her in your hands which means lots of bites. I'll see what I can come up with tonight and let you know how it goes. Tonight I may just put her cage on the dinning room table and talk to her. We'll see what kind of mood she's in. Thanks again everyone. Hopefully I'll figure out what will work for me & Daisy. |
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| kevinp | Aug 15 2007, 09:18 AM Post #14 |
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I would agree with Bonnie, i think your going to have to start all over again. ive always found the bathroom the best place for training as its quite and away from the other birds mine also has no windows so no distractions for them. I would start how bonnie said just a few minutes at a time and work up from this, its going to be hard and take some time and probably a lot of work but it can be done. as for cage territoriality this does seem to be a thing for parrots in general not just parrotlets. The other thing that everyone needs to remember is that parrotlets are true parrots they are no different than an amazon or a B&G they just happen to be very small, so need the same training and rules set as the bigger parrots do. Here's something to try and do, visualise a parrotlet being as big as a grey and then imagine having to deal with that beak and attitude :lol: kev :) remember Jessie ask if you need help :) |
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| Gardengail | Aug 15 2007, 12:02 PM Post #15 |
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eek. LOL! So true! |
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